Re: "but the reason for the bible quotes is as a counter-blast to that Scientology-like cult of the Thunder[bollocks].info group."The application of laboratory science to our observations of space should never be called a cult. Attempts to make sense of mythology -- which represent more than 5,000 years of human writings -- based upon laboratory physics should never be called a cult. Cults try to take advantage of people by undermining their own confidence in their own common sense. The Electric Universe empowers people by suggesting an explanation for the universe which is far simpler than invisible theoretical entities (dark matter and dark energy) and complex mathematics. Plasma physics fundamentals can be understood with a high school education and follows directly from electrodynamics basics. When we see a magnetic field, for instance, we should first consider that it is caused by an electric current. If you can't recreate it in the lab, then it's vital that you maintain your skepticism. The real cult is the Big Bang Theory, which invites people to ignore everything they've learned in physics, and replace the main actors with invisible entities. You cannot get more cult-like than that.